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. could mitt romney really fire big bird? just the thought of it has pbs fans all fired up. nightly news begins now. . >>> good evening, coming off a lackluster debate performance, the president got some good news today, 32 days before the election, the nation's jobless rate fell to the lowest level of his term in office. economists will argue what it means, but here are today's numbers, the economy gained about 14,000 jobs in the last month, pushing the unemployment rate to 7.8%, that is where today's political debate in this country started out. we have it all covered here tonight. and we'll begin our coverage with nbc's andrea mitchell, good evening, andrea. >> reporter: good evening, brian, in a week that has been a roller coaster for both of the candidates, today's news gave a good bit of a jolt, but that set off a fire storm on what it really means. the news that the unemployment dipped below 8% since he took office came just in time for a president battered by his poor performance in the debate. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the o

spending and he will accomplish it all by eliminating federal funding for pbs. the question is can obama and his team win the post-debate debate by highlighting some of this nonsense and romney's fuzzy language? willy brown is the former mayor of san francisco, former speaker of the house out there. joan walsh is editor-at-large for salon and the author of "what's the matter with white people." i want to get to these points. can you win on the facts having lost perhaps on performance value? >> it's very, very difficult to get people in the world observing politicians to ever come to the substance. they always go for style. they always are influenced by performances, and i believe mr. obama took a licking last night. the public knows that and now to suggest that the facts support what his position is supposed to be i don't think carries. >> you know, i got to ask you a personal question about the president. you know, i do look up to him in so many ways. when i'm with him i say to myself and i do this objectively, i listen to him after he's briefed us on something, this guy ought to be pre

. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: ari berman is a political correspondent for "the nation" and author of the book "herding donkeys." last year he wrote a piece called "the gop war on voting." much of what he wrote has come to fruition. he joins us from new york. good to have you on this program. >> i am a longtime admirer. thanks for having me. tavis: honored to have you on. let me talk about this piece you wrote for "rolling stone." i don't want people to think we are demonizing or casting aspersions on the gop, but i want you to lay out the facts. is it the case that most of this push, these strict voter i.d. laws, this is being pushed almost exclusively by republicans, yes or no? >> there are issues where democrats and republicans are at fault, where they are both to blame. this is not one of these issues. this is an issue that since the 2010 elections, laws that restrict the right to vote have been passed overwhelmingly by republicans in states with republican legislatures and republican government. that includes efforts to crack down on v

's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> bnsf and carnegie corporation. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: with less than a week left before the first presidential debate, both candidates remained focused today on persuading voters they can boost the economy. but a key question at the heart of it all-- is the economy slowing, stalling, or perhaps even gaining strength in some ways? new data are sending conflicting signs. republican presidential nominee mitt romney campaigned today at a military academy in pennsylvania. romney promised better jobs for young people like the cadets sitting behind him and a better future for the entire country. >> we're in a very different road than what i think the people of the world expected from the united states of america. and if i'm elected president of this country, i will get us back on

the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, big bird. i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> cnn political analyst and editorial director of the national journal. hi, ron. >> good morning, carol. >> i know it's not the most important issue of the night. plenty of people actually think lehrer helped mitt romney by allowing him so much time to answer questions. fair? >> i don't know. he has been an important force in presidential debates. last night was not a good night for him. the new format has a lot of strength, allows you to drill down on a subject, providing sustained focus on one area at a time. and he simply did not take advantage of it. he didn't have meaningful follow-ups. he didn't challenge them. he really didn't kind of force them to move beyond their kind of comfort zone and their talking points. i think it was a tremendous missed opportunity. i bet the other moderators will learn from it and being more aggressive in using this tool that the new format provides him. >> cnn's candy crowley is up next and she's

of the detroit tigers. that's all ahead on tonight's "newshour." major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: and by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st century. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: the first presidential debate is behind them, but the two sides went at it again today. republicans said their man took it to the president in the denver duel. the obama camp charged the truth got trampled in the process. >> la night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very different visions for the country. and -- (applause) -- and i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i said the president's vision is trickle-down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see instead a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> repo

that at all. >> ifill: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: creating new enriching experiences. through intel's philosophy of "invest you for the future" we're helping bring these new capabilities to market. we're investing billions of dollars in r&d around the globe to have the heart of tomorrow's innovations. by investing today in technologicalled advances here at intel, we can help make a better tomorrow. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: the national debate over voter identification laws took a new turn in pennsylvania today. a state judge ruled that officials must wait until 2013 to begin enforcing a new law. ray suarez has the story. >> suarez: the decision means pennsylvania voters wi

to pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you too. >> was this a good thing, a bad thing or a thing? >> i after all of the chatter, i thought he said i am going to cut big bird. i am going to cut the subsidee. i like big bird. he said he liked him. i didn't remember that. >> if would be great if he said, no, i will cut big bird like a prison shiv. >> by the way, maybe it is me, liz, who likes big bird? he was the least likable. he was big, clumsy, horrible. >> you know who i didn't like? snufalupogous. he was a downer. >> i liked the grouch. >> what's his name? >> oscar. >> ons -- >> romney, what was missing in this debate is romney wants advertising on pbs. he wants general mills corn flakes and have pbs be sustained by the free market advertising and not the taxpayer dollars. >> which makes sense. >> why don't they just do it? >> i don't know. you are asking somebody who didn't go to the research. >> they pause and go to the people with the mugs and umbrellas umbrellas and sell a few birds. >> congress tried to do that several times, well the republicans have, but it gets voted down eve

for the pbs newshour has been provided by: and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: in just a few hours, president barack obama and former massachusetts governor mitt romney will take the stage at the university of denver's magness arena for the first of three election debates. tonight's encounter, moderated by the "newshour's" own jim lehrer, is to focus on domestic policy. the first half of the 90-minute face-off will be spent on the number one issue for most voters this year: the economy. joining us for the debate, and here with us now to preview what to expect tonight are two familiar faces syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. gentlemen, welcome. the night is finally here. mark, no pressure, just 60 million people will be watching. what are you looking for from tonighta encounter? >> what i'm looking for, judy, is that the-- the candidate who understands

by mitt romney about how he would cut spending to pbs. the debate was hosted by pbs' jim lehrer. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i like pbs, big bird and actually like you too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things and borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: this debate turned out to be the most tweeted event in u.s. history. 10.3 million tweets in total. the big bird comment you just heard generated 17,000 tweets per minute. wow. mike? >> people are apparently passionate about big bird. >> reporter: who knew people loved "sesame street" so much, right? >> no doubt. i never doubted it. >> we all grew up on "sesame street." kristin fisher live in our satellite center. >>> every debate includes a little stretching of the truth so to speak. did mitt romney or president obama do that when they were talking about taxes? derek mcginty watched the debate with our partners at "u.s.a. today." take a listen. >> reporter: there was a lot to talk about regardless, a lot of facts out there, especially this $5 trillion in tax cuts.

% of the people we surveyed said romney won the debate. but moderator and pbs anchor jim lehrer might not feel the same way. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. bigad shaban, cbs news, denver. >> even people in california say romney won the debate last night. an exclusive poll of adults here in the golden state show 48% think governor romney won compared to 34% for president obama. 18% felt there was no clear-cut winner. >>> we would like to get a discussion going this morning. who do you think won round one of the presidential debates and why? comment on facebook, twitter or email us at mornings@cbs5.com. >>> we know the candidates in debates sometimes put spins on the facts to benefit their arguments. here are a couple of fact checks on last night's debate courtesy of the associated press. president obama suggested the u.s. will save mone

to pbs and other things. i like big bird. i actually like you too. >> jennifer: that, ladies and gentlemen leads to our sixth and final mitt lie of the night so romney wants us to believe that cutting funds to pbs is going to fix the deficit. not true. in 2010, the federal government gave $300 million to pbs of course is not chicken scratch but $300 million is about 1/100 of 1% of the total federal budget. one thing is sure, firing big bird sure ain't going to fix the deficit. as you can imagine romney's big bird dis has not gone over well with the residents of "sesame street" including elmo who sat down with this exclusive interview with our own brett ehrlich. shh, brett's talking now. >> listen, i know how you can lose a debate but what i don't know is how you can lose a debate to a guy who during that debate said that he wanted to cancel "sesame street." when i say i'm fond of someone i don't then vow to fire them. i wanted to talk to someone that this statement might hurt the most and for that, we talked to

of the other big moments came after romney's comment about cutting funding for pbs. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and stop other things. i like pbs and big bird. and i like you, too. >> i like big bird but he'll be out of a job prompting the rush recreation of @firebigbird that gathered 27,000 followers. and this twit pic viewed over 147,000 times that says, will work for food. an energy bill do? or get the yard ready for cool weather? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. [ male announcer ] why not talk to someone who owns an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america? ask me about my tempur advanced ergo. goes up. goes up. ask me what it's like to get a massage anytime you want. goes down. goes down. [ male announcer ] tempur-pedic brand owners are more satisfied than owners

the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. that's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. but that's what we heard last night. >> bret: in all seriousness, pbs released a statement today and they said, quote, we are very disappointed that pbs became a political target in the presidential debate. governor romney does not understand the value of american people place on public broadcasting and the outstanding return on investment the system delivers to our nation. the federal investment and public broadcasting equals about one, 100th of 1% of the federal budget, elimination of funding would have virtually no impact on the nation's debt, yet the loss to the american public would be devastating. there are some people who say that that was not the best thing to mention, bringing up big bird. >> you're talking about somebody who does like pbs, but who believes the constitution means what it says. l

. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs, i like big bird, like you, too. >> reporter: one of the surprising parts of the president's performance is what he didn't say, no mention of romney's 47% remark, no talk of bain capital, nothing about romney's own taxes. he did play the romney is a hypocrite card when it comes to health care. >> the irony is we've seen this model work really well in massachusetts. because governor romney did a good thing working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and as a consequence, people are covered. there it hasn't destroyed jobs. >> reporter: romney who ran from his massachusetts health care plan during the gop primaries now used it to attack to the middle to the general election. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. i like the fact that in my state we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did, instead, was to push through a plan would the a single republican vote. >> reporter: and romney's countless hours of rehearsals clearly produced lines like this.

the subsidy to pbs, i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs, i like big bird, i actually like you too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> i mean, thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a close ally of the eight-foot tall bird was asked about it at the briefing. >> i'm not going to get into politics here. i wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers so to speak. >> reporter: but big bird has some conservatives a little plucked. they argue that it's time to stop funding public broadcast programs like sesame street, npr and the pbs news hour. brian darling is with the con zefbtive heritage foundation. >> it's not at all. using public funds to fund entertainment, furthermore, it's a waste of money when there are private resources doing similar functions. we love big bird, but maybe

, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you too. >> the social media blew up right away on the big bird comment. it wasn't long before a new act popped up, the new handle fire big bird. big bird even posted this picture holding a will work for food sign. >> thousands of people already follow that. it is crazy. >> it is amazing. 24,000 followers now just from that comment. >> it is amazing the things people latch onto and it blows up and it becomes a big deal. it was just a comment. but people do what they do. >> so somebody put that picture together, i guess. >> look at the poor kids. >> oh, no! >> he wasn't saying to get rid of pbs or sesame street. he was just saying it would pull away the funding that the federal government gives. but people take it and run. whatever. >> look at tucker. >> everybody loves big bird. big bird is safe. weather forecast, starting off with cloud cover. we've got some humidity out there to start your day as well. some warm temperatures but changes today. we'll get drier air working in later this after

president of children's media for pbs and has some advice developing socially and emotionally. it's a big cog in the wheel of trying to learn every day. we all worry about it. what are the things we can look toward to ease the transition. >> these social and emotional skills are the most important predictor of success in school and life. pbs has a new media program based on mr. rogers neighborhood but it's for 21st century kids. the idea is to develop strategies and practice them at home with your children so when they become angry, frustrated, disappointed, when they're anxious about a new experience, they have a strategy they can use. >> some of the things we keep hearing for our 2-year-old is that the transition is the hardest, whether it's just you're going to color now and you move over to a counting game. even that little transition can cause some stress. so when parents get them home after the day, how can you sort of coach them so the next day isn't so bad? >> 2s, 3s and 4s can be very anxious, we all can be when something is new. so one of the best things parents can do is talk a

. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird, i actually like you too. >> reporter: one of the most surprising parts of the president's performance was what he did not say. no mention of romney's infamous 47% remark, no talk of bain capital, nothing about romney's own taxes. he did play the "romney is a hypocrite" card when it comes to health care. >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts. because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and, as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed job. >> reporter: romney, who ran from his massachusetts health care plan during the gop primaries, now used it to tack to the middle for the general election. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. i like the fact that in my state, we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did, instead, was to push through a plan without a single republican vote. >> reporter: and romney's countless hours of

specific, but i will. mr. corn, let's go to you. the federal subsidy for pbs in 2012 doesn't make up a huge part of this deficit. for example, 2012, the federal subsidy for pbs was $444 million. if you compare that to romney's plan for the federal budget, you'll see how miniscule it is. pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2 trillion over the next ten years. so, i mean, big bird is a big diversion to what he's really talking about in terms of the deficit. >> well, i think those of us out here crave specifics from governor romney. and when he's talked about this in the past, he's often thrown big bird under the bus. i don't know what would happen if he threw big bird under the bass. maybe the bus would go off the road. but never the let's, he has this little set piece he does. do you want to know what i'll cut? i'll cut pbs and big bird, the national endowment of humanities

four more years. [ romney] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. . >>> i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going keep on spending money on things to borrow flown china 350 topay for it. >> and that is one of the most memorable quiets -- quotes. as soon as it hit the airways, everyone was abuzz on twitter and facebook to have their say in the political showdown. he's more. >> i don't want to kill jobs. >> governor romney ruled out revenue. >> reporter: as the country buzzes with scorecards from the first presidential debate, it seems the biggest winner is social media. >> this is the biggest debate in terms of the use of twitter and mass use of facebook. >> reporter: wednesday's debate was the most tweeted event in u.s. political history; it was the fourth most tweeted telecast of any kind. about 11 million comments coming down fast on platforms like twitter and facebook in realtime. and who won and who lost also clear. experts finding more than 47,000 tweets mentioning gop presidential candidate mitt romney and the words win or winner compared to a little

. >> reporter: the president attacked romney's plan to cut subsidies to pbs and his position was so different from what he said in the past he didn't recognize who he was debating. >> whoever was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what mitt romney has been saying in the last year. >> obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. yes we do. >> reporter: biden said the super wealthy needs to pay more. romney says that will kill jobs. another wild card in this race comes later this morning. the government releases its september unemployment report. experts see that jobless rate rising from the current 8.1%. >> we'll be talking about that a little later. susan mcginnis in washington. thank you so much. word this morning that a rare but deadly meningitis outbreak has the potential to get bigger. it's possible thousands of people are at risk. so far at least 35 people in six states have contracted the fungal meningitis. five have died. the shots behind the disease were shipped to 23 states. it's unclear how many people received injections. in tennessee 1,000 pe

to pbs. i love pbs, love big bird, actually like you, too. >>> nfl has switched the jerseys to a body contoured fit. >> the complaint is that the new uniforms make them like tubby. you be the judge. here is tim tebow in the new uniforms. take a look at this what is that? take a look at this what is that? yeah. captioning funded by cbs do you think? [ laughter ] >>> welcome to "cbs this morning." the first of three presidential debates is over. this morning, most of the people who watched it say governor mitt romney got the upper hand on president obama. >> the candidates traded views on the economy, domestic issues and jan crawford is at the site of last night's debate in denver. jan, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norahad h and charlie and to our viewers in the west. this is the only presidential debate out here in the west. mitt romney last night owned it. if you have any doubt, look at this morning's denver post of the swing state here, colorado, saying he may have changed the dynamics of this race. >> under the president's policies, middle income americans have been buri

to pay for a program. he said he would cut pbs and big bird. he was very specific about what he would do. in certain places though romney questioned obama and obama just looked at him, when obama said basically you get a tax cut or a tax deduction for moving jobs overseas. mitt romney said i've been in business last 25 years, i don't know what you're talking about. basically obama was vague last night. but romney came with specifics. jon: cory, you described the debate as being sort of very specific and bordering on wonky but isn't that what people are looking for right now? aren't they looking for specifics and numbers and ideas here? >> i think you're absolutely right about that. always interesting to me tv commentators and others complain how debates and political discourse is boring and turning american people off whether this is exactly the time they should pay close attention. when they do this is when they see the contrast between the two candidates standing on same stage. if you look reports come out this morning, fact checkers, "l.a. times", "wall street journal", "washington po

, who works at pbs, i'm going to throw your ass out on the street, old man. you, not only you, but all those free-loading muppets. that takes, not just one ball, but two. two, enormous balls. >> romney could have waterboarded aladdin, put down blue, deported dora the explorer, and won walking away. he won with the sound up. >> you're entitled to your own airplane, and your own house. >> romney won with the sound off. dude, he's yelling at you. look up. what are you looking at? what are you writing that's so important? what are you doing? oh. that is impressive work. >> the only thing that could have salvaged obama's performance last night, is if the body of bin laden fell from the ceiling on to the stage. >> here's the category. president obama excuses. everybody is saying, today, what was wrong? he was off his game. where did he go? he didn't challenge. he wasn't ready. ill-prepared. not out there. no tiger in the eye. and mitt got, you know, if i didn't know better, you would think he was full of coffee. so, now, president obama, excuses. i called some folks at the white house. say s

to pbs. i love pbs and big bird and you too. >> on cbs "this morning." >> the nfl have switched the jerseys which has a body contour fit. >> the complaint is new uniforms make them look tubby. >> here's tim tebow in the new uniform? what do you think? [ laughter ] >> welcome to cbs "this morning." the first of three president debates are over and this morning most of people who watched it sayovernor mitt romney got the upper hand on president obama. >> the candidate traded views on the economy and domestic issues and jan crawford is at the site of last night's debate in denver. >> reporter: good morning. all you had to do was look at romney's advisers after the debate last night, their smiles told it all. they knew romney did what he needed to do. here's this morning's "denver post" saying it too. romney may have changed the dynamics of this race. >> under the president's policies middle income americans have been buried. they are being crushed. >> reporter: it was an energized mitt romney taking direct aim at the president's economic policies and offering a different approach.

's about big bird. >> mitt romney said he would cut funding to pbs, which is home to "sesame street," even though he likes big bird. that's when the twitterverse went wild. >> 23,000 followers in a couple of hours. tweets such as organizing a million muppet march against mitt. and occupy "sesame street." and there's a facebook page. >> got to love twitter. >>> now, an update on the wisconsin anchorwoman who sounded off after receiving an e-mail about her weight. >> jennifer livingston responded to the letter on tv, talking about self-worth. and that man is standing by his e-mail. he released an unrepentant statement, urging livingston to transform herself over the next year for her viewers to see. and he even offered her his advice and support. so, his name's out there. and now, his face is, as well. >> give it up, man. keep an doing your job. >>> drivers in russia did a double-take after what appeared to be a bail of hay being driven down the road. >> the bizarre incident unfolded when a farmer decided to use the roof of his car to transport the hay. >> he was later stopped for dangerous

the public cares about it. it works. who talks about it? >> we are talking about it. >> pbs section of the show -- give me a break. >> now you are insulting the audience. >> the 9 people in america who care about this stuff. what about the others? >> i bet they want to kill the people who did this. >> it took us quite a while to figure out exactly what happened, and we still may not know everything, in 9/11. with the guy said train, the intelligence had fallen apart. it took us long to realize it with these people were -- who these people were. >> "deception," the word that charles used. >> charles has a conspiracy. if it is a conspiracy, it is a pretty lousy one, being contradicted within hours. the ar drums from think tank commandos and the gucci guerrillas who dominate this city. it reminds me of norman schwarzkopf, who led troops to a successful venture, the triumph in the persian gulf war. he was getting all this praise from his fawning flatterers, and he said no, it does not take courage to order men into battle. it takes courage to go into battle. --t we're talking about >> n

was feisty. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> bill: can you explain, let's start with the 47% because neither charles nor i really -- we just don't get it it why didn't he use that? >> it's inexplicable to me. i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have an easy run at it, i don't know. but the 47% has become so engrained and been so says tested and so negative for romney that you ought to use it it's as simple for that. >> bill: we know why he mailed in his game last night, the presidents, because one of the men that you idolize very much al gore told us it was just the elevation and the president was i guess didn't have enough oxygen and just couldn't get the energy level up. >> let's not waste our time on serious analysis with al gore's view about the air. >>

is defending pbs? >> i'm not saying. >> that's it for us, thanks for watching, have a great weekend, bye. >> did mitt romney's post debate victory hit a speed bump with the unemployment rate? we'll break down what the numbers mean. this is special report. good evening, i'm bret baier. president obama is hailing the jobs report, showing a drop from 8.1% to 7.8, as a sign the country has come too far to turn back now. his republican challenger says the new numbers are not the sign of a true recovery, in fact, he says they're telling a far different story. the government's household survey says that 873,000 people entered the work force. but the employer survey found 114,000 new jobs created, 10,000 of those in government. so, the difference, about 760,000 are apparently not full-time stable jobs, what's known as the real unemployment mark, the unemployed and those too discouraged to look for work remains unchanged at 14.7%. white house correspondent wendell goler begins our coverage of the report and the spin. >> two days after a disappointing debate with mitt romney, president obama look

offensive approach against the president as well as jim lehrer, big barned the entire pbs crew. the debate focus around the economy as we knew it would and the candidates traded jabs over tax policies for the middle class. >> romney: under the president's policies middle income americans have been buried. they've been crushed. i will not under any circumstances, raise taxes on middle income families. >> obama: now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> romney is saying he would push for tax relief is another flip-flop. from his statement a few weeks ago that we should not expect a huge cut in taxes if he's elected president. we'll do some fact checking for you in the next current news update. despite the lies and contradictions from romney, a new cnn poll says 67% of voters do think he won the debate. more bill press coming up after the break. stay with us. you're about to watch an ad message created by a current tv viewer for capella university. matter. education is the key

captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions >> the following is a pbs election event. funding for this program was provided by: >> ifill: good evening, and welcome to special pbs "newshour" coverage of the first presidential debate between president barack obama and former governor mitt romney. i'm again ifil. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. tonight's debate will be moderated by our own jim leerer and will start a little over a minute from now, from the magness arena. >> after the debate we'll talked to arrow shapiro and scott horsily in denver, and christina bellantony. >> woodruff: you can follow along online on our live stream and live plog. two very quick thoughts from mark and david. mark, it come downs to this. >> in a rare race it's become increasingly a referendum on the challenger rather than the incumbent. can the challenger mitt romney make this a referendum on the president. >> who has the toughest job? >> romney. maybe jim lehrer. format i love. much more demanding on jim but better for us. >> ifill: we're looking forward to what jim has to say tonigh

with student loans and those issues like that. mitt romney had mentioned shutting off pbs, which broadly to think about the fact that that is one station on television that does help other people. how to break it down and help other people that do not understand. i think that was another thing that -- the fact that a lot of the times they were talking about the tax and economy, that was like beating a dead horse. people brought up how obama was saying the same thing. i think that is because they are beating the issue like a dead horse. you have to come up with something else to explain the economy. host: what did you do? caller: i am a student. host: do you go to fed vale state -- fayetteville state? caller: i'm from new york state. host: thank you for calling in. judy is from north carolina, mitt romney supporter. caller: good morning. host: what did you think of the debate? caller: i did not think it went far enough in some of the engines. i have watched over the health care situation. i have read up and have had help to try to decipher a lot of it. hospitals being fined because patien

anniversary. i am sure this is the most romantic place you can imagine, here we me. i like pbs and big bird and you, too. i will not spend money borrowing from china to pay for it. >> american people have to ask is the reason governor rum rhumb all of the plans because they are too good. >> look, i have five boys, i am used to people saying something that is not always true and keep on repeating it and hoping i will believe it. that is not the case. a friend of mine said you pick losers. . you are ened to your own plane and house. >> two minutes is up. >> i had five seconds before you interrupted me. and then he went for another minute. >> steve: good morning folks, and it was built as a rumble in the rockis and it certainly was and all of the polls, even the pundits on the left. it is clearr romney wound up winning the first of the three presidential debates and chris christty was right although he was derided on sunday morning chat shows. he said thursday morning we'll talk about how the race is upside down. >> gretchen: i was stunned at this debate and how important it was. i hope americ

was able to talk about things like funding for pbs and never had explained his position supporting bankruptcy for the american auto industry. obama rescued the american auto industry, our largest industrial industry, it never came up. on the very heart of the romney economic plan, on the tax cut, why did he insist on the deductions? they're not details, the president called them. they're not loopholes, they're mortgag mortgages, charitable deductions, state and local. huge issues at the very heart of the romney economic plan. the 47%, he let romney come out there as a guy who cared about people and social security. he's on the record with his fundraisers where you pay $50,000 to hear what he really thinks as using your phrase. he said these people were all moochers and bums. on health care, four or five times he slipped away. romney in recent days has said if you have a health problem, you're poor and live in an apartment, as he put it, we won't let you die there, you're going to go to the emergency room. that is the romney economic health care plan. at each point he said on pre-ex

romney gets testy. stay with us. >> i'm not going to send money to pbs, not going to send money to the national center or the national endowment for humanities and arts. >> that doesn't add up to much, governor. are there some other -- >> i'm happy to keep going, julie, okay? ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] pop in a whole new kind of clean. with tide pods. a powerful three-in-one detergent that cleans. brightens. and fights stains just one removes more stains than the 6 next leading pacs combined pop in. stand out. silverado! the most dependable, longest lasting, full-size pickups on the road. so, what do you think? [ engine revs ] i'll take it. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now during chevy truck month, get 0% apr financing for 60 months or trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition with a total value of $8,000. hurry in before they're all gone! his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the evening brings more pain. so, back to more pills. almost done, when.

with all respect. i will get rid of that. i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president has put in place almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> when i walked into the oval office i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars paid for on a credit card, two cuts that are not pay for, programs that were not paid for, a massive economic crisis. despite that, yes, we had to take some emergency measures to make sure we did not slip into a great depression. let's make sure we are cutting out things that are not helping us grow. 77 government programs from aircrafts that

this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> i get the last word. let me make this comment. >> nope. come on, mr. president, give us a peek under the hood. >> five week before the election he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle class a families are going to benefit too much? ♪ i guess you're just what i needed ♪ >>> we begin with the president criticized as being less than effective last night by hyperventilating pundits across the board, but now getting his own chance to put a spin on the first presidential debate. fresh off last night's face-off, the president is hitting the trail in key swing states. he's just touched down in madison, wisconsin, for a rally within the hour. >>> and earlier this afternoon the president described his own complete and utter surprise at the man he met last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who cla

to use the synapse to pop out and sitting here talking you and ji jim lehr about the pbs funding which is okay and cute and fun to talk about, how about the auto industry, i rescued it and you would let it go bankrupt. >> i am if for equal pay of women, he didn't bring up things and let romney get by with some really distracting and really unclear, in fact, untrue statements about healthcare where he said i am for coverage for preexisting conditions, his people later on said he wasn't and he said, in fact, before that he never was really for covering preexisting conditions unless, you know, it is paid for, ahead of time during, you know, continuing coverage, and a couple of times in the last week he said things like well if you get sick we won't let you die in your apartment and get you to er and yet came on last night talking about a national health plan he had which he really doesn't have. i thought he got away with a lot of things showing sympathy for social security recipients when in the tape recently exposed it was clear he had no sympathy for people he sees as parasites so i jus

of that i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things to pbs i like big bird and i like you too. i'm not going to stop borrowing money from china to pay for it. >> i thought lehrer was big bird. first let's go with the president looking down while romney is speaking. >> i'm comparing this to 2008. this wasn't a good thing. typically when he looks down he is trying show his disagreement. i don't agree what you are saying. tight jaw, clinched lip. there is also a level of intimidation i think in parts of the clip where he doesn't feel good about what's going on with romney. he feels insecure with romney. >> bill: shouldn't he be looking at romney isn't that much better body language. >> much better. more powerful to look at him. >> bill: looking away showing weakness. >> you don't deserve my eye contact therefore i'm not going to give it to you. >> bill: condescending. >> right and that's not what you need to be doing here. >> bill: comes across to the viewer because they are watching split screen. presentation to governor romney. >> use very powerful g

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